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joe royal 1:46 Wed Apr 10
A few days in Istanbul
Apart from the Blue Mosque and the market is it worth a visit?

Be going mid May

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Coffee 1:56 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
Haven't watched Midnight Express for years.

Wils 2:05 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
I am there right now visiting my wifes family.

Depends on what interests you in whether it is worth a visit but I would definitely cast your net wider than that tourist areas around the Blue Mosque and the Grand Bazaar.

Head up towards Taksim Square the other side of the of the Golden Horn and then down towards Cihangir which is where the hip Istanbulites hang out. Take the ferry to the Asian side and fish restaurants of Üsküdar and take a walk along the edge of the Bosphorus for great views. There is a good bar scene further along towards Kadikoy where you will find more westernised Turks compared to Üsküdar. Fenerbache Stadium is also located in Kadikoy. Further along the coast is the Bourgeois neighbourhood known colloquially as Cadde (pronounced "Jaddy") properly known as Bağdat Cadde (Baghdad street) which has more upmarket cafes and shops and some bars clustered along some of the side streets. There are quite a few Michelin starred restaurants here now too. Plenty more to mention, drop me a DM if you are interested in more.

Far Cough 2:24 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
I got lost in that Grand Bazaar, place is fucking huge.

Hagia Sofia is worth a look as well.

Side of Ham 2:29 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
Coffee not only did that film stop any tourism there for about 20years I also think it inspired VAR with all it’s outrageous justice…..

On The Ball 3:00 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
Been too many years since I've been to give decent advice, but I thought it was a brilliant place. Loads to see, like Mohammed's beard hair.

joe royal 3:43 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
It’s a toss up between there and Albania. Both have cheap flights & hotels.

WHU(Exeter) 3:57 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
Joe, wills is your man as per below, but have also been around 15 times so if there's anything specific, types of sights etc, can also whomail me.

Lower league football matches a speciality, ditto brilliant cheap food places.

there are dozens and dozens of places worth a visit outside of the two you've mentioned, but as Wills has said, all depends what you're after.

On The Ball 3:58 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
Where in Albania? If you've got some time you could drive from Tirana into Prizren (Kosovo) which is lovely (or further into Kosovo, depending on time), then see loads of sites on the way back to Tirana (which is not anywhere near as nice as Istanbul, but under-appreciated). DIRT cheap.

WHU(Exeter) 4:25 Wed Apr 10
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Cough, Hagia Sophia has changed a bit now. Downstairs = Mosque, upper floor = back to being a 'museum', and seperate entrances for each. the upper floor was closed completely to the public for a while, after Erdogan decreed that it was a mosque, rather than museum status.

Wils 4:47 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
WHU(Exeter)

I was down by the Hahia Sophia yesterday. Been in many times over the years but was planning to take my daughter inside as she is a bit older and would appreciate it more. Was aware Erdogan had made it a mosque but was quite depressed to actually see and hear it operating as a mosque. Should have been left as a museum. Comes across as a triumphalist and provocative move by Erdogan.

WHU(Exeter) 5:08 Wed Apr 10
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Wills, agree 100 per cent.

He's said he's been trying to repair relations with Greece, but doing what he has done with the Hagia Sofia suggests very much the opposite.

They also closed the upper floor originally, which I thought at the time was disgusting, as that's where most of the Byzantine works of art are. A local explained to me that the reason the top floor was closed was because as a museum, there is control over the amount of people who can enter at any time, but with a mosque there isn't that control, so if too many people went upstairs there, it could be a real structural hazard. I saw the sense in that, but still doesn't make it right. The whole place should've stayed as a mosque.

That was bad enough, but he went on to do the same to the Chora, which to me was pure evil spite.

WHU(Exeter) 5:09 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
Mosque!... Museum

joe royal 7:11 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
Whoever sent the who mail , I got the notification but it vanished when I clicked on it .

Sanacs 7:25 Wed Apr 10
Re: A few days in Istanbul
the underground cisterns are well worth a visit

Also going up the Galata tower, some decent spots for food and drinks around there as well!

If the lighthouse is open, if has a really good view of the city as well, which is worth the trip

WHU(Exeter) 8:05 Wed Apr 10
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The ferrys are brilliant. Ignore the Bosphorus tour ones, where you get a crackly American voiced commentary all the way, and go up to one of the old fortresses either side, European or Asian or further up to Sariyer, just for the views of the bridges that span both and the scenery there and back.

You can wander round both the fortresses.

Buy a loaf of bread, from the back of the ferry, bung bits to seagulls and in 5 minutes it's like a scene from Alfred Hitchcock's 'The Birds' film. Under a tenner, including the bread.

WHU(Exeter) 1:23 Thu Apr 11
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Wils, I'm going to go back into the Hagia Sofia upstairs, but only because I've never managed to find the Viking grafitti up there that's apparently 1400 years old. Also when I've been before I've never seen the tomb of Doge Dandilo, and want to see that after reading about him leading an attack on the city, aged 90+ AND blind.

kylay 7:53 Thu Apr 11
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Hagia Sofia as has been mentioned by many. The sheer scale of it is incredible.

Be careful eating meat there. I had a dodgy kebab and missed a good bit of the trip on the toilet, although the hospital visit was astonishingly cheap.

Wils 10:08 Thu Apr 11
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WHU(Exeter)

I didn't know about the viking graffiti, I will have to have a read up on that one. I did know about something similar: The English fleeing England after the Norman invasion and joining the Varangian guard in Constantinople.

https://deremilitari.org/2014/06/english-refugees-in-the-byzantine-armed-forces-the-varangian-guard-and-anglo-saxon-ethnic-consciousness/

There are theories that they left Constantinople and went further up the black sea coast to start a colony.

nychammer 7:36 Fri Apr 12
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Avoid rug salesmen around the mosque area. They will initially approach as friendly guys but will try to lure you back to the stores sell you a rug and they end up being quite aggressive. If you want to avoid hassle just brush them off firmly,

Otherwise some excellent suggestions I won’t repeat

, 12:17 Fri Apr 12
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Joe royal asks apart from the Blue Mosque and market is it worth a visit.

The Blue mosque is a comparatively young building in comparison with Hagia Sofia which has easily a thousand more years of, and a more varied and interesting, history.

Also the Topkapi Palace and museum holds more interest than the BlueMosque. Nearby also are the Grand Bazaar and the Greek Romano cisterns, not forgetting the Spice market.

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